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School and system failed both students!

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  Quote tones91 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Apr 13 2008 at 7:32pm
ok, so you got me with the dress codeSmile
 
but notice how you said 'fighting back'...he wasnt a bully, he was only trying to defend himself from the real bullies, and in the only way he knew how...it seems obvious that the teachers would have had little effect on the bullies, especially nowadays.
Rejoice in the fact that Larry is in a better place then we could ever imagine, in a world where love will abound with him forever.
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  Quote Alan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Apr 10 2008 at 8:04pm
You have missed my point and are expressing your opinions which is fine....my point, with Dress Codes, there should be rules. They bent them backwards, and in doing so created a very avoidable environment.
When Larry chased kids, and flirted with them in a way that was his way of fighting back...he should have been disciplined like any other Bully.
 
In Schools with anything goes dress codes, they must deal with various expressions of dress, but if you institute DRESS CODES, enforce them.
 
Your other points are good, but have nothing to do with my original one.
 
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  Quote tones91 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Apr 09 2008 at 7:32am

While dress codes do have good effects, there are schools all over that allow kids to wear all kinds off off color and 'distracting' things....take 'goths' with their chains or people with huge spiky hair for example!! it's distracting yes, but does it give anyone a reason to kill them? No! and that is what it all comes down too. You also forget that while sexuality doesnt define a person as a whole, it is still a big part of who they are.

If some irish kid came in wearing a kilt, which looks an awful lot like a dress, would that have 'contributed' to his death?

He was not simply expressing his sexuality, he was being himself, and if people can't understand that, than we as a society have a lot of work to do.
Rejoice in the fact that Larry is in a better place then we could ever imagine, in a world where love will abound with him forever.
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  Quote Alan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Apr 08 2008 at 1:46pm
You are correct, but if our schools, which use to demand discipline are going to enforce dress codes, then the "tolerance" that you speak of should not extend to boys wearing high heels, and making themselves "stand out" in such a way.....thus  become distractions to themselves and others. If you do not understand that, then you are coming from the Liberal Left that I refer to.
To constantly make excuses and then to excuse those supposedly in charge is foolish in my opinion. This was tragic, but adults should not allow youth to use school as a place to express sexuality!
 
Allowing this type of behavior "contributed" to this sad day. I said Contributed!
 
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  Quote tones91 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Apr 04 2008 at 7:58am
While I respect your opinion, The fact that you are blaming the school on being to 'liberal' is seemingly foolish to me. The real thing to concentrate on here is the fact that both boys had very troubled childhoods, and Lawrence was just trying to express himself the way he knew how to. We as a society need to break through the rigid Boy Code of the stereotypical male and help make building up loving families for kids our main concern...It seems as though the average family in America is becoming degraded very quickly and it is my hope that we can stop that cycle. My heart, too, goes out to both Lawrence and Brandon. Neither of them are to blame, they were just kids who didnt always know how to handle what they went through and were trying to find a way to cope in today's society.
Rejoice in the fact that Larry is in a better place then we could ever imagine, in a world where love will abound with him forever.
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  Quote Alan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Mar 30 2008 at 5:13pm
Why institute a dress code?
Typically to reduce distractions that should not be a part of schools to improve the learning process.
 
It also allows the have-nots to "blend" in with the rest of the cool students, that have the expensive clothes, etc.
 
Dress Codes can be very effective when enforced with common sense!
 
IMHO.......To allow an outwardly gay "MALE" student to wear high-heels with a "UNIFORM" was stupid and short sighted.
This child should be alive today.
The fact that the young killer also felt threatened by Larrys flamboyant attitude without intervention is also irresponsible..
He obviously could not deal with this type of attention.
 
The school and it's overt LIBERAL thinking had a tragic effect in this case.
 
In my opinion, the school and adminstrators did not protect either child! ,
and must revisit their policies to hopefully prevent another such tragedy.
 
My sincere condolences to the family and friends.
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